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NeverHedge's avatar

My biggest issue with this discourse is the lies that the left peddles. And how it seems to be created in self serving and narcissistic way primarily for women to discuss their grievances.

Like "Men are miserable, and their pain is reflected in the rising rate of suicide, depression, anxiety, joblessness, and crime." Crime is down, joblessness among young men is very stable the over past decades in USA and suicide rates are stable too. Why say this? Well, then you can just blame your issues on men not being good enough nowadays, a female version of red pill talking points, instead of acknowledging that you are not good enough to date the men you desire. And this seems like the entire purpose of the majority of the discourse.

Another thing you see is "boys falling behind in education" lie (at least for USA). For PHDs it is true. But for Bachelor's and Master's degrees the gender ratio was flat from 2000-2020 but fell by 2 points after Covid as more boys dropped out to support their families. When it comes to highschool it is just false and measures from SAT, GPA, Graduation rates and Independent Assessments( PISA like tests) are either flat or improved in favour of boys because boys were never ahead in high school.

If you actually look at education and in income (hourly median) you will see that things rapidly reversed in late 20th century but the stabilized between men and women and have been stable for the past quarter of a century.

Christopher Wintergreen's avatar

I love the virtues. I feel like I’m doing ok with most of them, but going through them and reflecting was valuable. Temperance, courage and perseverance are my main areas for improvement.

I like the idea of Carrying Weight, but finance being front and centre strikes me as odd. By saying that it’s not the only way to carry weight implies (to me, maybe this wasn’t intended) that it’s perceived as the main way.

Maybe state who you intend this to be for. For all men? It’ll be incredibly difficult to do that when you’ve only had a narrow slice of all possible experiences. For example, there are many people who don’t have a desire to create for others. Is it truly necessary to create for others, in order to be a man? It feels like a large and growing part of who I am, but I can imagine that not to be true for others. I find it easy to get along with but difficult to relate to the kids at school (I’m a teacher too!) who have the roughest backgrounds. We get on because I respect them as people and I’m clearly on their team, but there’s such an obvious gap in our experiences. I dunno, I guess maybe ponder as you write that for some people, there will always be factors preventing them from getting to the start point (of carrying weight for example), let alone walking the path.

I freaking loved reading Step 4: Give Back! I feel a strong sense of “I don’t deserve what I have because so much is dependent on those who have come before me”, and you’ve articulated it well. I feel like the AND could be an OR. Maybe that’s just me feeling like I don’t have 4 hours in my week. Maybe I really should carve out time for volunteering, or at least strongly intend on doing it in a few years when I do have time.

Good luck!

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